Indi Hartwell Says She Is Open to InDex Reunion With Samuel Shaw
Summary: TNA Knockouts World Champion Indi Hartwell said on the Unseen with Joey Karni podcast that she is open to reuniting with Samuel Shaw, formerly Dexter Lumis. She defends against Shayna Baszler at Destination X on Nov. 15.
The quick version
- Indi Hartwell said she and Samuel Shaw, formerly Dexter Lumis, are "both open to doing something again." TNA has announced no such storyline.
- She also said her NXT appearance before Bound for Glory gave her "a sense of closure."
- Hartwell defends the Knockouts World Championship against Shayna Baszler at Destination X on Sunday, Nov. 15, in Edmonton. Shaw is in syX, set to face Matt Hardy and Moose on the same show.
TNA Knockouts World Champion Indi Hartwell said she is open to a reunion with Samuel Shaw, the TNA name of the former WWE wrestler Dexter Lumis. She said it on the podcast Unseen with Joey Karni, as reported by Wrestling Inc. The exact date of the report and of the episode was not shown in the excerpts we read. We read the quotes as Wrestling Inc and eWrestlingNews printed them and did not hear the episode.
What she said
On the pair's old NXT act, known as InDex, Hartwell said: "I think it's something that a lot of people want to see." She called it "probably the most fun I've had in my career." Of a return, she said: "We're both open to doing something again because I feel like we never really got closure on it. It's still open. I'm interested in doing more with that."
TNA has not announced anything between the two. Neither Hartwell nor Shaw has been named for a joint segment in the reports we read.
Why now
Shaw is one half of syX with Joseph Sawyer. They face Matt Hardy and Moose at Destination X on Sunday, Nov. 15, at the Edmonton EXPO Centre in Edmonton, Alberta, per our card story. Hartwell defends the Knockouts World Championship against Shayna Baszler on the same show. She won the title from Xia Brookside at Bound for Glory, per Wrestling Inc.
On her NXT return
Hartwell also spoke about competing in a number one contender's battle royal for the NXT Women's Championship days before Bound for Glory. WWE released her in 2024, per eWrestlingNews. She said she worried the NXT crowd "wouldn't care anymore," and that the appearance gave her closure because "when you get released, you don't get to say bye to some people." She said she also shared the ring for the first time with fellow Australian Zaria.
What to watch
Whether TNA puts Hartwell and Shaw in the same segment before or at Destination X. The Triple Threat Revolver follows at the Nov. 18 tapings in Calgary.
Source: Hartwell's own words on Unseen with Joey Karni, as printed by Wrestling Inc and eWrestlingNews. We did not hear the episode, and its air date was not given in the reports we read. Nothing in this story is a rumor.
Sources
- Wrestling Inc, "Indi Hartwell Talks Potential TNA Storyline With Samuel Shaw, Fka WWE's Dexter Lumis", early Nov. 2026 (the InDex quotes; search excerpt, exact date not shown). https://wrestlinginc.com/2307398/indie-hartwell-tna-samuel-shaw-wwe-dexter-lumis-index-syx
- Wrestling Inc, "Indi Hartwell Reflects On Making WWE NXT Return Ahead Of TNA Knockouts World Title Win", Nov. 2026 (the NXT quotes, the Bound for Glory win; search excerpt, date not shown). https://wrestlinginc.com/2307577/indi-hartwell-wwe-nxt-return-tna-knockouts-world-title-win-battle-royal
- eWrestlingNews, "Indi Hartwell Says Recent WWE NXT Return Gave Her Closure", Nov. 2026 (the 2024 release, the same quotes; search excerpt, date not shown). https://ewrestlingnews.com/news/tna/indi-hartwell-says-recent-wwe-nxt-return-gave-her-closure
- Unseen with Joey Karni, Hartwell episode (YouTube). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WcxRTuHrSk (we did not open it)
- WrestlingNews.com, "TNA Adds Hardy and Moose vs. syX to Destination X", Nov. 2026. https://wrestlingnews.com/story/tna-destination-x-syx-hardy-moose-revolver-nov-18/
- WrestlingNews.com staff reporting: compared three outlets' versions of the quotes and checked our own Destination X stories. We did not contact Hartwell or TNA.
How we credit sources: Editorial standards.